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	<title>Comments on: The Rule of 72 Doesn&#8217;t Work!</title>
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		<title>By: Weekly Wrap Up March 9-15 &#124; Personal Finance Firewall</title>
		<link>http://ptmoney.com/2009/03/06/the-rule-of-72-doesnt-work/comment-page-1/#comment-3400</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Wrap Up March 9-15 &#124; Personal Finance Firewall</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] I read it on PT Money so they get the first mention  ) about something I have never heard of called The Rule of 72. The rule essentially helps measure the amount of time an investment will take to make money and [...]</description>
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<p>[...] I read it on PT Money so they get the first mention  ) about something I have never heard of called The Rule of 72. The rule essentially helps measure the amount of time an investment will take to make money and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll stick with 72.

Usually the interest rate used on deposits (and loans) is in the form of APR, which means that annual is the correct compounding period to use.  And with annual, as your spreadsheet shows, 72 is more accurate above 5% and not that shabby below.  Further, 72 has more factors and so is easier to use to estimate compounding in your head, which is the whole point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll stick with 72.</p>
<p>Usually the interest rate used on deposits (and loans) is in the form of APR, which means that annual is the correct compounding period to use.  And with annual, as your spreadsheet shows, 72 is more accurate above 5% and not that shabby below.  Further, 72 has more factors and so is easier to use to estimate compounding in your head, which is the whole point.</p>
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		<title>By: BayouJosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>BayouJosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I graduated with a math minor, so I know enough to appreciate it, but not nearly enough to use it. I always enjoy seeing the logic behind the formulas though. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I graduated with a math minor, so I know enough to appreciate it, but not nearly enough to use it. I always enjoy seeing the logic behind the formulas though. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Grubb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared Grubb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im an engineer and a math nerd, so I enjoy it :)
In case you want to see the beauty:

Y = ln(2) / (n * ln(1 + r/n))

where Y = number of years, n = how often interest compounds in a year (e.g, n=12 for monthly), and r is rate (as a decimal, 5% means r = 0.05). So then, if we want a &quot;rule&quot; to use as an approximate guide, we take that and multiply by the rate (so that when we divide by the rate later, we get the number of years).

I personally always use &quot;Rule of 70&quot; for my own use, as it tends to be pretty good for typical APR&#039;s and compounding schemes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im an engineer and a math nerd, so I enjoy it <img src='http://ptmoney.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
In case you want to see the beauty:</p>
<p>Y = ln(2) / (n * ln(1 + r/n))</p>
<p>where Y = number of years, n = how often interest compounds in a year (e.g, n=12 for monthly), and r is rate (as a decimal, 5% means r = 0.05). So then, if we want a &#8220;rule&#8221; to use as an approximate guide, we take that and multiply by the rate (so that when we divide by the rate later, we get the number of years).</p>
<p>I personally always use &#8220;Rule of 70&#8243; for my own use, as it tends to be pretty good for typical APR&#8217;s and compounding schemes.</p>
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		<title>By: BayouJosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>BayouJosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Ashley. Very interesting.

Jared, please tell me you used a calculator to do all that and that your head hurt when you were done. :) If not, you might want to try laying off the algebra before bedtime! Never really thought of it this way though, so thanks!

~bayou</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Ashley. Very interesting.</p>
<p>Jared, please tell me you used a calculator to do all that and that your head hurt when you were done. <img src='http://ptmoney.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  If not, you might want to try laying off the algebra before bedtime! Never really thought of it this way though, so thanks!</p>
<p>~bayou</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Grubb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared Grubb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If interest were to accrue continuously (meaning every smidgen of a second, rather than daily, weekly, monthly, etc), then it&#039;s actually the &quot;Rule of 69.31&quot; (the natural logarithm of 2).

If you move from &quot;continuously&quot; to daily, or weekly, interest accrues slower, so you have to increase the 69.31 upwards. And the adjustment depends on both the rate and the accrual period. For example:
5% daily =&gt; Rule of 69.32
20% daily =&gt; Rule of 69.33
5% monthly =&gt; Rule of 69.46
20% monthly =&gt; Rule of 69.89
5% annually =&gt; Rule of 71.03
20% annually =&gt; Rule of 76.04</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If interest were to accrue continuously (meaning every smidgen of a second, rather than daily, weekly, monthly, etc), then it&#8217;s actually the &#8220;Rule of 69.31&#8243; (the natural logarithm of 2).</p>
<p>If you move from &#8220;continuously&#8221; to daily, or weekly, interest accrues slower, so you have to increase the 69.31 upwards. And the adjustment depends on both the rate and the accrual period. For example:<br />
5% daily =&gt; Rule of 69.32<br />
20% daily =&gt; Rule of 69.33<br />
5% monthly =&gt; Rule of 69.46<br />
20% monthly =&gt; Rule of 69.89<br />
5% annually =&gt; Rule of 71.03<br />
20% annually =&gt; Rule of 76.04</p>
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